Sound on my new radio is muffled....

[micky]

One of the questions I posed elswhere in this thread is whether, if I
connected the stereo line in (or headphone jack) to the Aux input pf my
Sangean wr-22, which only has one speaker, would the radio merge the L
and R channels. Then I thought to ask on Amazon, on the page that
sells that radio. And I already got two answers that both say Yes.

\"Yes, it will. If you later add external powered stereo speakers, the
output will be in stereo.\"

I only mention this in such detail because that answer was from Bob F.
!!!!


In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:08:54 -0700, Bob F
<bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 1:57 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:58:26 -0700, Bob F
bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 10:42 AM, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I\'ve
lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the
max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,
but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but
then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

 

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:22:46 -0400, legg
<legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 18:33:25 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:


In sci.electronics.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 18:01:01 -0400, legg
legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 13:42:01 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:

I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

snip

Make and model number.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BG67YH18/

For another subthread, I foudn the right cable and connected the
headphone jack of the radio in question to the AUX in of the other
radio. The sound stopped from the speakers but didnt\' show up in the
other radio. I\'m sure I tested if I could play my phone that way and it
worked for that.. Just checked again and it still does, the phone plays
through AUX, but the radio headphone jack does not. Unlike the
bluetooth thing which is inconsistent, this could be a clear problem
with the headphone jack. (I\'ll try to find some headphones just to make
sure. They\'re in a suitcase somewhere.)

[answer to your post below]

Suggest you scroll through the various equalizer presets
available, to see if a usable difference is noted.

Good idea.

>A factory default is offered.

Yes, it comes set that way, and I\'ve tried \"talk\" and I\'ve tried various
settings for custom. Since hearing people talk is the problem, I looked
up what frequency we talk at and it is for the most part 80 - 250 Hz.
That was the bass range that I had lessened. But when I turned it up it
made it worse.

It\'s possible that there\'s harness error/damage off
the production floor.

Harness error? What is that? Something that could be fixed?

>Return it if not satisfied.

I assumed I only had the month Amazon gives but your post and others
inspired me to check and it has a 1 year Warranty. And I saved the box
it was shipped in.

Still, I want to ask them if they have a solution, and before that, I
still haven\'t gotten around to directly comparing the same station on
both radios. Won\'t take that much time, just play C-span radio or WAMU
on the PC which has an FM transmitter to the FM radio on the shelf above
the radio in question. So I can go back and forth several times. Maybe
I\'ll even come up with better words to describe the problem.

I\'ll write them about it this week but if I have a year, I can take
another month.


And also, the bluetooth and ambient hearing amplifer by Malhear
Technology I bought just under 2 months ago broke 3 days ago too. It
has left and right microphones and the right stopped working. I\'ve
always been genlte with it, there\'s no apparent damage, and tapping on
the little thing (that looks like in inline log) doesn\'t help. But
their warranty is also one year.

Still, I\'d have been happier to return something to Amazon, which last
time credited me without looking at what I returned an hour after I
dropped it in a bin at Whole Foods, than Malhear that I\'ve never heard
of. OTOH for the radio that is the theme of this thread, by Grace, they
seem like a big, reliable company that makes a variety of fancy
products, some of which wikip says without footnote got CES Innovations
Awards. Goes bacfk to 2007 and actually based in San Diego.

I hate doing returns, even when it\'s easy, but if I must, maybe I must.

>RL

 

[Bob F]

On 9/24/2023 8:11 AM, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 07:44:48 -0700, Bob F
bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/23/2023 11:44 PM, micky wrote:
In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 23:43:05 -0400, micky
NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 13:42:01 -0400, micky
NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I\'ve
lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the
max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,
but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but
then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.


I\'m trying to connect my wifi radio to a regular radio with bluetooth.
The Grace wifi radio doesn\'t find the Sangrean wr-22, even though it has
found my laptop, even though the laptop has never been on and closer
than 40+ feet from the Wifi radio. And it later found something called
[LG]webOSnnnnnnn which must be in my neighbor\'s house.

But not the Sangrean which only 12 inches above the Wifi.

I let it try for hours, but the Grace wifi never found the Sangrean.

Is there any chance Grace wifi radio knows how to find headphones, but
not another wifi radio????

The owners manual only mentions headphones but I took that to be becuase
that\'s the standard device and my problem was not foreseen. The
Sangrean works fine when receiving audio from Alexa. Connects very
easily and quickly.

If I can\'t connect by bluetooth, there is a Line Out on the Grace and a
Aux In on the Sangrean. Both Stereo**. Are those of the same
amplitude? Will that work? The Aux In says connect, for example, an
iPod, MP3 or CD player. Are their outputs like Line Out would be?

Line out outputs tend to be a fixed output level, not affected by the
volume control. The volume resulting at the receiving device may be at a
different level than the receiving device default, but the volume
control should adjust for that unless the receiving device expects a
significantly different level. The headphone output would allow the
outputting device volume to be adjusted if the line outs are not
compatible for some reason. If the output is too high for the inputting
device, distortion will result.

I would use the line out as my first choice.

OKay. I like that better because the jacks are in the back.

Even though the fidelity of $8 earbuds can\'t be that good, I tried them
last night in the headphone jack, but they have a 2.5mm plug to fit a
cell phone and it\'s a 3.5 mm jack. Plus it\'s TRRR instead of TRR,
because of the mike it has. Iirc that is still supposed to work if the
plug fit.

You really should talk to the seller of your device about replacing it
with one that actually works or refunding your money..

I guess I\'m afraid they\'ll send me another one that\'s no better than
this.

If you keep interacting with them, and don\'t bother to say they sound
like crap so they can actually help you with the problem, then that
would probably be an appropriate response.

After I\'ve gone to the work of shipping the first one back and putting
the new one in its place, both of which would have been pretty easy 2
years ago but now seem like tiring acts.

Also I think it would be easier to get them to send a new one after I
tell them how much effort I put in to get this one to work. This stuff
doesn\'t seem tiring because it fulfills my curiosity too.

There also a 3.5mm mini headphone jack on the sending radio. Would that
be better than Line Out.

**Even though the Sangrean has only one speaker, it has a stereo Aux In
jack. Do you think that means L and R are merged in the radio?

Probably.

I hope so.

BTW, I remembered last night that I have another bluetooth radio, also
by Sangean, in the bathroom, and I tried to pair it with the Grace radio
this morning and it was easy. So I don\'t know why I can\'t pair the
bedroom Sangean, especially since I can easily with Alexa, and I
unplugged Alexa. It\'s not just that I can\'t pair it, the bedroom
Sangrean doesn\'t even show up on the Grace wifi list of bluetooth
sources.


Or can I merge the left and right channels just by buying the right
Y-cable? Is there a name for that?

 

[Paul Babiak]

On 09/22/2023 01:42 PM, micky wrote:

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

rec.audio.tech and rec.audio.pro still exist, but the traffic is pretty low.

 

[David LaRue]

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
news:8durgihoqkktuof85dojqv66g7k2bs1mlt@4ax.com:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:10:51 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 1:42 PM, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but
for talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through
some sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table
radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various
kinds of music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time,
I\'ve lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top
one to the max, and the one in between almost to the max. This
helped at first, but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see
addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder,
but then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too.
alt.audio and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

Time for a visit to an audiologist. If you don\'t use hearing aids,
you may need them. If you use them, the settings may need to be
tweaked. A few years ago, I thought something had gone wrong with my
stereo equipment, either the speakers or the receiver. I also noticed
I was having problems understanding dialog on the TV and in face to
face conversations. Turns out I have typical \"mild-moderate\"
age-related hearing loss. Hearing aids made a big difference in what
I hear and almost completely \"repaired\" my stereo system. If you will
be getting your first set, make sure they come with a 100% money-back
guarantee if not satisfied, for at least 45-60 days as it takes a
little while for your brain to adjust. Much longer than it takes to
adjust to a new eyeglasses prescription.

What brand did you get and about how much were they?

Do you have to have them \"tuned\" by the audiologist? Just once or
every year or something?

Do you sleep with them?

I\'ve used hearig aids for years. The central bands where human speach is
are not coming through. Definitely visit an audiologist to verify what
needs to be fixed. They will have a variety of brands. I\'ve used aids
that were covered by insurance. Very litte out of pocket. You will
initially visit the audiologist every few weeks as you report what works
for you and what does not. They can tune them to correct most problems.
I have four channels, but moslty prefer my \'music\' setting as I prefer to
hear background noise. I don\'t sleep with mine but some people can. My
audiologist checks out my aids every 6 months or so for the full
warranty. It is well worth it if your hearing changes or you find
situations where you cannot hear right and need adjustments.

Good luck,

David

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 24 Sep 2023 14:54:41 -0400) it happened micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
<2mv0hil62uis9o8g6qnam5dotujh5n09gv@4ax.com>:

Yes, it comes set that way, and I\'ve tried \"talk\" and I\'ve tried various
settings for custom. Since hearing people talk is the problem, I looked
up what frequency we talk at and it is for the most part 80 - 250 Hz.

Speech is between about 300 to 3400 Hz (old telephone).

 

[Bob F]

On 9/24/2023 11:54 AM, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:22:46 -0400, legg
legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 18:33:25 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:


In sci.electronics.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 18:01:01 -0400, legg
legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 13:42:01 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com
wrote:

I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

snip

Make and model number.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BG67YH18/


For another subthread, I foudn the right cable and connected the
headphone jack of the radio in question to the AUX in of the other
radio. The sound stopped from the speakers but didnt\' show up in the
other radio. I\'m sure I tested if I could play my phone that way and it
worked for that.. Just checked again and it still does, the phone plays
through AUX, but the radio headphone jack does not. Unlike the
bluetooth thing which is inconsistent, this could be a clear problem
with the headphone jack. (I\'ll try to find some headphones just to make
sure. They\'re in a suitcase somewhere.)

Headphone jack outputs on a lot of audio equipment physically breaks the
internal connection to the internal speakers when you plug in
headphones. The aux output will not do that.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 22/09/2023 18:42, micky wrote:

I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

Possibly. Is there a reflex port on it somewhere?
Stuffing that with foam might improve things a bit. Somehow
extra/excessive bass seems to be a selling point for radios in that
sort of price range. It does nothing for intelligibility.

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

Depending on how badly their equalizer mangles the sound you might be on
a no win battle with this thing.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I\'ve
lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the
max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,
but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but
then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

--
Martin Brown

 

[Retirednoguilt]

On 9/24/2023 11:14 AM, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:40:44 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:


I like the onse with a yoke, so when they fall out of my ears as they
often do, I don\'t lose them. None of the high quality hearing aids
like yours or the Otikon that Clare mentinoed come in yoke form, do
they?
I don\'t know. Mine have never fallen out.

That\'s great

On the web, I see that a little attachment, Resound calls a \"sports
lock\", can be attached which is supposed to keep the hearing aid in
place during physical activity. They appear to be only about $13 (US)
per pair. Can\'t vouch for their comfort, ease of use, or effectiveness.

 

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:44:23 -0400, Retirednoguilt
<HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/24/2023 11:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:40:44 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:


I like the onse with a yoke, so when they fall out of my ears as they
often do, I don\'t lose them. None of the high quality hearing aids
like yours or the Otikon that Clare mentinoed come in yoke form, do
they?
I don\'t know. Mine have never fallen out.

That\'s great

On the web, I see that a little attachment, Resound calls a \"sports
lock\", can be attached which is supposed to keep the hearing aid in
place during physical activity. They appear to be only about $13 (US)
per pair. Can\'t vouch for their comfort, ease of use, or effectiveness.

https://www.hearingaidaccessories.co.uk/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/hearing-aid-sports-locks/

Only £9.99 for a pack of 10! But I\'d have to get some Pounds somewhere.

\"They rest in your concha bowl....\" I\'m not even sure I have a concha
bowl. My mother had all that stuff, finger bowls, punch bowl, soup
bowls. When she moved to an apartment, she got rid of a lot of stuff.
I\'ll check if she left me one or two.

 

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 00:58:55 -0000 (UTC), David
LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote in
news:8durgihoqkktuof85dojqv66g7k2bs1mlt@4ax.com:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:10:51 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 1:42 PM, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but
for talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through
some sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table
radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various
kinds of music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time,
I\'ve lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top
one to the max, and the one in between almost to the max. This
helped at first, but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see
addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder,
but then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too.
alt.audio and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

Time for a visit to an audiologist. If you don\'t use hearing aids,
you may need them. If you use them, the settings may need to be
tweaked. A few years ago, I thought something had gone wrong with my
stereo equipment, either the speakers or the receiver. I also noticed
I was having problems understanding dialog on the TV and in face to
face conversations. Turns out I have typical \"mild-moderate\"
age-related hearing loss. Hearing aids made a big difference in what
I hear and almost completely \"repaired\" my stereo system. If you will
be getting your first set, make sure they come with a 100% money-back
guarantee if not satisfied, for at least 45-60 days as it takes a
little while for your brain to adjust. Much longer than it takes to
adjust to a new eyeglasses prescription.

What brand did you get and about how much were they?

Do you have to have them \"tuned\" by the audiologist? Just once or
every year or something?

Do you sleep with them?


I\'ve used hearig aids for years. The central bands where human speach is
are not coming through. Definitely visit an audiologist to verify what
needs to be fixed. They will have a variety of brands. I\'ve used aids
that were covered by insurance. Very litte out of pocket. You will
initially visit the audiologist every few weeks as you report what works
for you and what does not. They can tune them to correct most problems.
I have four channels, but moslty prefer my \'music\' setting as I prefer to
hear background noise. I don\'t sleep with mine but some people can. My
audiologist checks out my aids every 6 months or so for the full
warranty. It is well worth it if your hearing changes or you find
situations where you cannot hear right and need adjustments.

Good luck,

David

Very valuable info here. Thanks. I talked to a guy at a meeting on
Sunday who had Jabra. I know there are better than this, and I think I
have good insurance, but what impressed me is that the \"behind the ear\"
was much better than what I used to see pictures of in 1964. Surprise!
Only 50 years later and they\'re better. The behind part was smaller,
the tube into the ear was smaller, and probbably longer, and the thing
in the ear was probably small enough that it wouldn\'t bother me and you
can still hear the actual sound.


Despite my joking with you, Retirednoguilt, I am serious. Your post was
very encouraging. (I think I had in mind the ones that looked like
little acorns and the whole things was stuffed in ones ear, like an iPod
or earbud.)

Th

 

[Retirednoguilt]

On 9/26/2023 3:36 AM, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:44:23 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/24/2023 11:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:40:44 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:


I like the onse with a yoke, so when they fall out of my ears as they
often do, I don\'t lose them. None of the high quality hearing aids
like yours or the Otikon that Clare mentinoed come in yoke form, do
they?
I don\'t know. Mine have never fallen out.

That\'s great

On the web, I see that a little attachment, Resound calls a \"sports
lock\", can be attached which is supposed to keep the hearing aid in
place during physical activity. They appear to be only about $13 (US)
per pair. Can\'t vouch for their comfort, ease of use, or effectiveness.

https://www.hearingaidaccessories.co.uk/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/hearing-aid-sports-locks/

Only £9.99 for a pack of 10! But I\'d have to get some Pounds somewhere.

\"They rest in your concha bowl....\" I\'m not even sure I have a concha
bowl. My mother had all that stuff, finger bowls, punch bowl, soup
bowls. When she moved to an apartment, she got rid of a lot of stuff.
I\'ll check if she left me one or two.

This is what I was referring to when I wrote:

https://www.hearingaidaccessory.com/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/gn-resound-one-hearing-aid-sports-locks-for-surefit-3-receiver/

However, I don\'t know if or how well they would fit on other brands. By
the way, if you have the part of the ear that extends out from your
skull, that structure (the external ear) unless misshapen, has a concha
as one of its parts. See:

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/cymba-conchae

 

[micky]

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:47:16 -0400, Retirednoguilt
<HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/26/2023 3:36 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:44:23 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/24/2023 11:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:40:44 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:


I like the onse with a yoke, so when they fall out of my ears as they
often do, I don\'t lose them. None of the high quality hearing aids
like yours or the Otikon that Clare mentinoed come in yoke form, do
they?
I don\'t know. Mine have never fallen out.

That\'s great

On the web, I see that a little attachment, Resound calls a \"sports
lock\", can be attached which is supposed to keep the hearing aid in
place during physical activity. They appear to be only about $13 (US)
per pair. Can\'t vouch for their comfort, ease of use, or effectiveness.

https://www.hearingaidaccessories.co.uk/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/hearing-aid-sports-locks/

Only £9.99 for a pack of 10! But I\'d have to get some Pounds somewhere.

\"They rest in your concha bowl....\" I\'m not even sure I have a concha
bowl. My mother had all that stuff, finger bowls, punch bowl, soup
bowls. When she moved to an apartment, she got rid of a lot of stuff.
I\'ll check if she left me one or two.

This is what I was referring to when I wrote:

https://www.hearingaidaccessory.com/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/gn-resound-one-hearing-aid-sports-locks-for-surefit-3-receiver/

However, I don\'t know if or how well they would fit on other brands. By
the way, if you have the part of the ear that extends out from your
skull, that structure (the external ear) unless misshapen, has a concha
as one of its parts.

I\'ll let my mother know. BTW, I don\'t have the thing that Cindy\'s
husband has, the Ventura? notch, so maybe I don\'t have this.

See:

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/cymba-conchae

I take it back, I do have that. Thank you for your patience.

 

[The Real Bev]

On 9/26/23 2:38 PM, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:47:16 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/26/2023 3:36 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:44:23 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On 9/24/2023 11:14 AM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 06:40:44 -0400, Retirednoguilt
HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com> wrote:


I like the onse with a yoke, so when they fall out of my ears as they
often do, I don\'t lose them. None of the high quality hearing aids
like yours or the Otikon that Clare mentinoed come in yoke form, do
they?
I don\'t know. Mine have never fallen out.

That\'s great

On the web, I see that a little attachment, Resound calls a \"sports
lock\", can be attached which is supposed to keep the hearing aid in
place during physical activity. They appear to be only about $13 (US)
per pair. Can\'t vouch for their comfort, ease of use, or effectiveness.

https://www.hearingaidaccessories.co.uk/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/hearing-aid-sports-locks/

Only £9.99 for a pack of 10! But I\'d have to get some Pounds somewhere.

\"They rest in your concha bowl....\" I\'m not even sure I have a concha
bowl. My mother had all that stuff, finger bowls, punch bowl, soup
bowls. When she moved to an apartment, she got rid of a lot of stuff.
I\'ll check if she left me one or two.

This is what I was referring to when I wrote:

https://www.hearingaidaccessory.com/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/gn-resound-one-hearing-aid-sports-locks-for-surefit-3-receiver/

Absolutely incomprehensible. I suppose it would have been too expensive
for them to post a picture of the things ACTUALLY IN USE WITH A HUMAN EAR...

However, I don\'t know if or how well they would fit on other brands. By
the way, if you have the part of the ear that extends out from your
skull, that structure (the external ear) unless misshapen, has a concha
as one of its parts.

I\'ll let my mother know. BTW, I don\'t have the thing that Cindy\'s
husband has, the Ventura? notch, so maybe I don\'t have this.

See:

https://www.shutterstock.com/search/cymba-conchae

I take it back, I do have that. Thank you for your patience.

--
Cheers, Bev
\"A friend is someone who puts the needs of others above their own.
Find one of those people and take advantage of him.\" --Rat

 

[micky]

In sci.electronics.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 10:38:13 +0100, Martin
Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 22/09/2023 18:42, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

Possibly. Is there a reflex port on it somewhere?

No. I don\'t think so.

Stuffing that with foam might improve things a bit. Somehow
extra/excessive bass seems to be a selling point for radios in that
sort of price range. It does nothing for intelligibility.

Interesting.

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

Depending on how badly their equalizer mangles the sound you might be on
a no win battle with this thing.

Well, here is the end of the first chapter:

I\'m still going to talk to the manufacturer about what equalizer
settings work best, or any physical improvement like changing the
speakers, or stuffing with foam,

but two nights ago I bought a patch cable for the L & R Line OUts that
plugs into the AUX on the rdio above it, and now the sound is pretty
good, certainly good enough for me (who has a tin ear which is why it\'s
surprising this radio wasn\'t good enough for me.) The cable merges L &
R so even though I paid extra for stereo speakers, it\'s monaural.

In addition, this means I can leave the internet radio on all night,
with the sound turned down to zero, and use the Sleep function of the
second radio, so it will turn off after an hour or two. On the
internet radio, the Sleep function** disables almost all the controls
and doesn\'t let me watch the name of the songs being played or see the
graphic that comes with each station or each song. That\'s just
entertaining enough to keep my attention but not enough to keep me
awake. **It just displays the time, which is boring.

The second radio, the Sangean WR-22, has very little tone control, but I
pressed a button my mistake and found that 3 years ago when I got it, I
had set the bass to -3 and the treble to +1. Simple, small changes, and
I\'ve been happy with that.


Back to the internet radio using its own speakers, I\'ve only played a
few songs. The music is probably okay, but the lyrics are muffled,
muddled, or muddy. So even they are better through the other radio.

I know I\'m not following the advice of people who said to send it back
but I didn\'t find a better replacement, also with presets. Maybe there
is one but I\'m tired of looking.

Thanks all. I couldn\'t have done it withou\' you.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I\'ve
lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the
max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,
but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but
then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

 

[micky]

In sci.electronics.repair, on Sun, 24 Sep 2023 18:38:30 -0400, Paul
Babiak <noway@uwish.com> wrote:

On 09/22/2023 01:42 PM, micky wrote:

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.


rec.audio.tech and rec.audio.pro still exist, but the traffic is pretty low.

At least there is some. I may have a second thread coming and
I\'ll include them.

 

[Andy Burns]

micky wrote:

I bought a patch cable for the L & R Line OUts that plugs into the
AUX on the rdio above it, and now the sound is pretty good, certainly
good enough for me (who has a tin ear which is why it\'s surprising
this radio wasn\'t good enough for me.) The cable merges L & R so even
though I paid extra for stereo speakers, it\'s monaural.

Wonder if polarity is reversed on one channel of your original source?

 

[Bob F]

On 9/27/2023 11:05 AM, micky wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 10:38:13 +0100, Martin
Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

On 22/09/2023 18:42, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

Possibly. Is there a reflex port on it somewhere?

No. I don\'t think so.

Stuffing that with foam might improve things a bit. Somehow
extra/excessive bass seems to be a selling point for radios in that
sort of price range. It does nothing for intelligibility.

Interesting.

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

Depending on how badly their equalizer mangles the sound you might be on
a no win battle with this thing.

Well, here is the end of the first chapter:

I\'m still going to talk to the manufacturer about what equalizer
settings work best, or any physical improvement like changing the
speakers, or stuffing with foam,

but two nights ago I bought a patch cable for the L & R Line OUts that
plugs into the AUX on the rdio above it, and now the sound is pretty
good, certainly good enough for me (who has a tin ear which is why it\'s
surprising this radio wasn\'t good enough for me.) The cable merges L &
R so even though I paid extra for stereo speakers, it\'s monaural.

In addition, this means I can leave the internet radio on all night,
with the sound turned down to zero, and use the Sleep function of the
second radio, so it will turn off after an hour or two. On the
internet radio, the Sleep function** disables almost all the controls
and doesn\'t let me watch the name of the songs being played or see the
graphic that comes with each station or each song. That\'s just
entertaining enough to keep my attention but not enough to keep me
awake. **It just displays the time, which is boring.

The second radio, the Sangean WR-22, has very little tone control, but I
pressed a button my mistake and found that 3 years ago when I got it, I
had set the bass to -3 and the treble to +1. Simple, small changes, and
I\'ve been happy with that.


Back to the internet radio using its own speakers, I\'ve only played a
few songs. The music is probably okay, but the lyrics are muffled,
muddled, or muddy. So even they are better through the other radio.

I know I\'m not following the advice of people who said to send it back
but I didn\'t find a better replacement, also with presets. Maybe there
is one but I\'m tired of looking.

Thanks all. I couldn\'t have done it withou\' you.

It still sounds like the \"radio\" is seriously defective or a piece of
junk, that you are kludging to make it \"usable\". I would send it back in
a moment.

 

[micky]

In sci.electronics.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 17:11:54 -0400, ? Mighty
Wannabe ? <@.> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 4:35 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:19:40 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 1:42 PM, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I\'ve
lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the
max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,
but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but
then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.

You might have \"Loudness\" on, which raises the low and the high, and
makes human voice almost inaudible (muffled). The \"Loudness\" setting
would tire me out quickly when I listen to people talk.
Thanks. I\'ll check the settings again but I dont\' think it has Loudness.

\"Loudness\" is a button on many stereo system.

I know but I checked and I was right. This one doesn\'t have it.

I have been playing with Windows since the beginning of time. I found a
very good software equalizer (free software) in my Windows 10/11. It has
many equalizer presets. My favourite preset is \"Telephone\", which raises
I doubt if it will have Telephone because it knows it\'s a radio. PC\'s
do everything. But I will try the other settings, Jazz, classical...
whatever. Maybe one is like telephone.

That equalizer software has graphical user interface so you can modify
the presets. The only preset that looks like \"Telephone\" is \"Radio\".

The \"Radio\" present raises only the human vocal frequency range, while
\"Telephone\" preset raises the human vocal frequency range plus tapering
the high end and low end frequencies all the way to  -30 dB.

the frequency range of human voices and depresses the high and low. I
can listen to Tucker Carson and Alex Jones all day.
I\'m sure.

Without that software equalizer, the high and low in the frequency
spectrum would tire me out quickly. Interesting enough, even with the
\"Telephone\" preset when I listen to music, I can hear the lyrics very
clearly, and the music still remains enjoyable.

 

[😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅]

On 10/1/2023 8:10 PM, micky wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 17:11:54 -0400, ? Mighty
Wannabe ? <@.> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 4:35 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:19:40 -0400, ? Mighty Wannabe
? <@.> wrote:

On 9/22/2023 1:42 PM, micky wrote:
I bought a $230 wifi radio that is impressive in many ways, but the
problem I have is that the sound sounds muffled

Maybe it\'s okay for music. I haven\'t listened to much music, but for
talk it sounds muffled. Like literally they are talking through some
sort of muffle. I don\'t have this problem with 5 other table radios.

Is the problem that there is too much bass? If not that, what?

It has equalizer settings so I changed from default and various kinds of
music to \"talk\". I didnt\' hear any change.

So I went to custom, which has 6 frequency ranges, and over time, I\'ve
lowered the lowest 4 ranges to the minimum and raised the top one to the
max, and the one in between almost to the max. This helped at first,
but future changes were smaller and I didn\'t see addtional help.

I can still understand if I make the sound one or two steps louder, but
then it\'s louder than I want.

Is there an audio ng that\'s not dormant that I can post too. alt.audio
and alt.audio.pro had gone 3 years without posts.
You might have \"Loudness\" on, which raises the low and the high, and
makes human voice almost inaudible (muffled). The \"Loudness\" setting
would tire me out quickly when I listen to people talk.
Thanks. I\'ll check the settings again but I dont\' think it has Loudness.
\"Loudness\" is a button on many stereo system.
I know but I checked and I was right. This one doesn\'t have it.

If you have \"Radio\" preset, then use it. It is close to \"Telephone\", but
\"Telephone\" cuts out both the high and low frequencies. It\'s perfect for
listening to human voice.

These are the screen grabs of the equalizer in my computer. If you
cannot see the two JPG images in this post, then you have to read it
online in Google Groups.

\"Telephone\" preset:




\"Radio\" preset:

I have been playing with Windows since the beginning of time. I found a
very good software equalizer (free software) in my Windows 10/11. It has
many equalizer presets. My favourite preset is \"Telephone\", which raises
I doubt if it will have Telephone because it knows it\'s a radio. PC\'s
do everything. But I will try the other settings, Jazz, classical...
whatever. Maybe one is like telephone.
That equalizer software has graphical user interface so you can modify
the presets. The only preset that looks like \"Telephone\" is \"Radio\".

The \"Radio\" present raises only the human vocal frequency range, while
\"Telephone\" preset raises the human vocal frequency range plus tapering
the high end and low end frequencies all the way to  -30 dB.

the frequency range of human voices and depresses the high and low. I
can listen to Tucker Carson and Alex Jones all day.
I\'m sure.

Without that software equalizer, the high and low in the frequency
spectrum would tire me out quickly. Interesting enough, even with the
\"Telephone\" preset when I listen to music, I can hear the lyrics very
clearly, and the music still remains enjoyable.