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On May 2, 2023 at 10:40:06 AM MST, \"Ed P\" wrote
<WVb4M.556642$Ldj8.56651@fx47.iad>:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95 minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus
or
If more people took the bus they would run them more frequently so the
wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost effective.

Right. And to get it going it may need to run at a loss... though that \"loss\"
really is still a gain for society and the environment.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
 
On Tue, 2 May 2023 13:40:06 -0400, Ed P wrote:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95
minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus or If more people took the bus they would run them
more frequently so the wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost
effective.

When I worked in Boston I would drive down from NH Sunday night and park
the car until my escape on Friday. Apparently Boston hasn\'t made that
observation yet. I rented apartments in various locations including
Allston, Somerville, and Beacon Hill. Walking was faster than messing
around with the MBTA. I wasn\'t a barhopper but if you were you had to
remember that while the bars closed at 2, the trains went to bed at 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0
 
On 2023-05-03, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2023 13:40:06 -0400, Ed P wrote:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95
minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus or If more people took the bus they would run them
more frequently so the wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost
effective.

When I worked in Boston I would drive down from NH Sunday night and park
the car until my escape on Friday. Apparently Boston hasn\'t made that
observation yet. I rented apartments in various locations including
Allston, Somerville, and Beacon Hill. Walking was faster than messing
around with the MBTA. I wasn\'t a barhopper but if you were you had to
remember that while the bars closed at 2, the trains went to bed at 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0

When I worked on Wall Street NYC during the 1980\'s I would walk by the same cars on the street with
tickets on them.
Every day.
Same cars.
It finally occurred to me that paying the parking tickets cost less than renting garage space.
Go figure.

--
Tim Smith
 
On Tue, 02 May 2023 18:01:33 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 10:40:06 AM MST, \"Ed P\" wrote
WVb4M.556642$Ldj8.56651@fx47.iad>:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that
left 5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95
minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus or If more people took the bus they would run them
more frequently so the wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost
effective.

Right. And to get it going it may need to run at a loss... though that
\"loss\"
really is still a gain for society and the environment.

https://mountainline.com/sustainability/
https://mountainline.com/sustainability/zero-fare/

The electric buses are a real improvement on the clunkers burning
biodiesel. Nothing like being behind one of those on a bike when it
belches out a big black cloud.

I keep promising myself to take a joy ride on one someday.

Oh, yeah. If you read carefully one thing the Mountain Line is very, very
good at is getting grants. Our two senators might fight tooth and nail on
most issues but they\'re very good at bringing home the bacon.
 
On Tue, 02 May 2023 17:38:57 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 9:49:52 AM MST, \"John Larkin\" wrote
4nf25id1hv2kcvuieks5jr2r9bbho80es2@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 2 May 2023 14:44:41 +0100, T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk
wrote:

On 02/05/2023 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:

snip

A taxi is also Public Transport.

What about rental cycles and eScooters?

A mate and some friends spent a long weekend at a beer festival in
Munich and said they were fantastic. Pick some up from where you are,
activate them via the app, go where you want and log out and leave
them.
If you come out of a place (typically a tourist attraction) and the
scooters you had were gone, there would generally be some a short
distance away.

He said the difference between there and say where they have trialled
here in the UK is respect and social responsibility.

They weren\'t left all over the footpath but out of the way, up against
a wall or fence.

They were never found damaged, especially vandalised and any that were
left a bit out of the way or too flat to use were collected up and /
or the battery replaced for a fully charged one.

I have reported many of the \'Boris / Santander\' hire bikes abandoned
here (well outside of their typical patch) and they are always
recovered pretty promptly (before the local scum destroy them).

When did parents stop teaching the respect for other peoples property
to their children, as can generally seen by all the damage and
graffiti on all sorts of public transport and property?

Cheers, T i m

The War On Poverty deliberately created an underclass of fatherless
kids.

Huh? Cite?

https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/12/24/ways-war-poverty-destroyed-black-
fatherhood/

Maybe Nick Chiles has the cites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Chiles

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/atlanta-black-star/

The Atlanta Black Star leans left.

https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2014/01/08/lbjs-war-on-poverty-hurt-
black-americans/

Of course you won\'t believe Black people who aren\'t left wing.
 
On May 2, 2023 at 6:59:31 PM MST, \"rbowman\" wrote
<kbdtg3Ft3noU1@mid.individual.net>:

On Tue, 02 May 2023 18:01:33 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 10:40:06 AM MST, \"Ed P\" wrote
WVb4M.556642$Ldj8.56651@fx47.iad>:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that
left 5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95
minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus or If more people took the bus they would run them
more frequently so the wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost
effective.

Right. And to get it going it may need to run at a loss... though that
\"loss\"
really is still a gain for society and the environment.

https://mountainline.com/sustainability/
https://mountainline.com/sustainability/zero-fare/

The electric buses are a real improvement on the clunkers burning
biodiesel. Nothing like being behind one of those on a bike when it
belches out a big black cloud.

I have been there. Or walking near them.

I keep promising myself to take a joy ride on one someday.

Oh, yeah. If you read carefully one thing the Mountain Line is very, very
good at is getting grants. Our two senators might fight tooth and nail on
most issues but they\'re very good at bringing home the bacon.

Are they of the same party?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
 
On May 2, 2023 at 7:36:01 PM MST, \"rbowman\" wrote
<kbdvkhFtdnsU1@mid.individual.net>:

On Tue, 02 May 2023 17:38:57 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 9:49:52 AM MST, \"John Larkin\" wrote
4nf25id1hv2kcvuieks5jr2r9bbho80es2@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 2 May 2023 14:44:41 +0100, T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk
wrote:

On 02/05/2023 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:

snip

A taxi is also Public Transport.

What about rental cycles and eScooters?

A mate and some friends spent a long weekend at a beer festival in
Munich and said they were fantastic. Pick some up from where you are,
activate them via the app, go where you want and log out and leave
them.
If you come out of a place (typically a tourist attraction) and the
scooters you had were gone, there would generally be some a short
distance away.

He said the difference between there and say where they have trialled
here in the UK is respect and social responsibility.

They weren\'t left all over the footpath but out of the way, up against
a wall or fence.

They were never found damaged, especially vandalised and any that were
left a bit out of the way or too flat to use were collected up and /
or the battery replaced for a fully charged one.

I have reported many of the \'Boris / Santander\' hire bikes abandoned
here (well outside of their typical patch) and they are always
recovered pretty promptly (before the local scum destroy them).

When did parents stop teaching the respect for other peoples property
to their children, as can generally seen by all the damage and
graffiti on all sorts of public transport and property?

Cheers, T i m

The War On Poverty deliberately created an underclass of fatherless
kids.

Huh? Cite?

https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/12/24/ways-war-poverty-destroyed-black-
fatherhood/

None of that says it was designed that way. But look at the points:

* Disincentive for marrying. Yeah, that is dumb.

* Next is a myth. Not even a part of a program.

* A claim about how black unwed fathers are treated. An opinion. No policy
statement.

* Noting a correation but no causation, at the start. Then talks about how
when women are given the means to not be as dependant this leads to men not
being depended on. OK.

* A policy... this about how to get help the government wants to know the
mother and father. Would you not want this? But the system could be set so
there were fewer risks / panalties. OK.

* How fathers are seen. Truth to it... but not tied to policy about poverty.

* An opinion about the impact on men. Not policy.

Maybe Nick Chiles has the cites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Chiles

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/atlanta-black-star/

The Atlanta Black Star leans left.

https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2014/01/08/lbjs-war-on-poverty-hurt-
black-americans/

Might look at others later.

Of course you won\'t believe Black people who aren\'t left wing.

I do not even know how to parse that sentence to have it make any sense and be
tied to my views. Can you?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
 
On Wed, 03 May 2023 02:40:26 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 6:59:31 PM MST, \"rbowman\" wrote

Oh, yeah. If you read carefully one thing the Mountain Line is very,
very good at is getting grants. Our two senators might fight tooth and
nail on most issues but they\'re very good at bringing home the bacon.

Are they of the same party?

No. Jon Tester is a Democrat, Steve Daines is a Republican. On some things
Tester is a better Republican than a lot of the RINOs. He hasn\'t committed
yet but he, Manchin, and Sinema may sink Julie Su. A Democrat in a red
state who is up for election next year has to walk a fine line. He is
vulnerable and knows it.
 
On 3 May 2023 01:59:31 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


https://mountainline.com/sustainability/
https://mountainline.com/sustainability/zero-fare/

The electric buses are a real improvement on the clunkers burning
biodiesel. Nothing like being behind one of those on a bike when it
belches out a big black cloud.

I keep promising myself to take a joy ride on one someday.

Oh, yeah. If you read carefully one thing the Mountain Line is very, very
good at is getting grants. Our two senators might fight tooth and nail on
most issues but they\'re very good at bringing home the bacon.

Say what you want, but EVERYTHING you say reveals, first and foremost what
an original and fascinating cool piece of hot senile Yankee shit you are,
you pathological self-admiring bigmouth ...and typical Trumptard. <VBG>

--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
 
On 3 May 2023 05:21:44 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


No. Jon Tester is a Democrat, Steve Daines is a Republican. On some things
Tester is a better Republican than a lot of the RINOs. He hasn\'t committed
yet but he, Manchin, and Sinema may sink Julie Su. A Democrat in a red
state who is up for election next year has to walk a fine line. He is
vulnerable and knows it.

Keep your sick senile shit out of these newsgroups, you pathological senile
gossip!

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 3 May 2023 01:45:54 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


When I worked in Boston I would drive down from NH Sunday night and park
the car until my escape on Friday. Apparently Boston hasn\'t made that
observation yet. I rented apartments in various locations including
Allston, Somerville, and Beacon Hill. Walking was faster than messing
around with the MBTA. I wasn\'t a barhopper but if you were you had to
remember that while the bars closed at 2, the trains went to bed at 1.

Maybe you weren\'t a barhopper, but I\'m absolutely sure you were as
bigmouthed back then as you are today..

--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
\"It\'s been years since I\'ve been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy\'s because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 3 May 2023 02:36:01 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/12/24/ways-war-poverty-destroyed-black-
fatherhood/

Maybe Nick Chiles has the cites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Chiles

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/atlanta-black-star/

The Atlanta Black Star leans left.

https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2014/01/08/lbjs-war-on-poverty-hurt-
black-americans/

Of course you won\'t believe Black people who aren\'t left wing.

AGAIN, this is off topic even within an already off topic thread, you
pathological endlessly gossiping washerwoman!

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
life:
\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 2023-05-03, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 02 May 2023 17:38:57 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 9:49:52 AM MST, \"John Larkin\" wrote
4nf25id1hv2kcvuieks5jr2r9bbho80es2@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 2 May 2023 14:44:41 +0100, T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk
wrote:

On 02/05/2023 14:27, Carlos E.R. wrote:

snip

A taxi is also Public Transport.

What about rental cycles and eScooters?

A mate and some friends spent a long weekend at a beer festival in
Munich and said they were fantastic. Pick some up from where you are,
activate them via the app, go where you want and log out and leave
them.
If you come out of a place (typically a tourist attraction) and the
scooters you had were gone, there would generally be some a short
distance away.

He said the difference between there and say where they have trialled
here in the UK is respect and social responsibility.

They weren\'t left all over the footpath but out of the way, up against
a wall or fence.

They were never found damaged, especially vandalised and any that were
left a bit out of the way or too flat to use were collected up and /
or the battery replaced for a fully charged one.

I have reported many of the \'Boris / Santander\' hire bikes abandoned
here (well outside of their typical patch) and they are always
recovered pretty promptly (before the local scum destroy them).

When did parents stop teaching the respect for other peoples property
to their children, as can generally seen by all the damage and
graffiti on all sorts of public transport and property?

Cheers, T i m

The War On Poverty deliberately created an underclass of fatherless
kids.

Huh? Cite?

https://atlantablackstar.com/2014/12/24/ways-war-poverty-destroyed-black-
fatherhood/

Maybe Nick Chiles has the cites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Chiles

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/atlanta-black-star/

The Atlanta Black Star leans left.

https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2014/01/08/lbjs-war-on-poverty-hurt-
black-americans/

Of course you won\'t believe Black people who aren\'t left wing.

I see no indication in your citations that it was deliberate. That\'s
the part that requires a cite.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 1:20:15 AM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Can\'t we just get rid of public transport? I asked Google Maps for a route from my house to somewhere I want to go on holiday.

2 hours by car, 6 hours by public transport. Dafuq?

Even more ridiculous, 6 hours by public transport, 7 hours by bicycle! Public transport is hardly faster than a bicycle!

1 day on foot! Trains go a whole 4 times faster than me walking!

Just close them down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkpnorzkr4v3w07/transport.jpg?dl=0

Those times are about right, and hold true globally.

Disparities in travel times between car and transit: Spatiotemporal patterns in cities

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61077-0

There\'s nothing wrong with PT in Aberdeen shire. What\'s wrong is cluelessness of the effect.
 
On May 2, 2023 at 10:21:44 PM MST, \"rbowman\" wrote
<kbe9b7F6v7U1@mid.individual.net>:

On Wed, 03 May 2023 02:40:26 GMT, Snit wrote:

On May 2, 2023 at 6:59:31 PM MST, \"rbowman\" wrote

Oh, yeah. If you read carefully one thing the Mountain Line is very,
very good at is getting grants. Our two senators might fight tooth and
nail on most issues but they\'re very good at bringing home the bacon.

Are they of the same party?

No. Jon Tester is a Democrat, Steve Daines is a Republican. On some things
Tester is a better Republican than a lot of the RINOs. He hasn\'t committed
yet but he, Manchin, and Sinema may sink Julie Su. A Democrat in a red
state who is up for election next year has to walk a fine line. He is
vulnerable and knows it.

Makes sense. But good they can get stuff done and not just blame the other.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
 
On Tue, 02 May 2023 15:32:33 +0100, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/2/2023 1:20 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Can\'t we just get rid of public transport? I asked Google Maps for a
route from my house to somewhere I want to go on holiday.

2 hours by car, 6 hours by public transport. Dafuq?

Even more ridiculous, 6 hours by public transport, 7 hours by bicycle!
Public transport is hardly faster than a bicycle!

1 day on foot! Trains go a whole 4 times faster than me walking!

Just close them down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkpnorzkr4v3w07/transport.jpg?dl=0

Stop cross posting your baby bullshit to s.e.d! We have plenty of our
own baby bullshit here that we prefer.

Stop implying others should shape how the internet looks for you.
 
On Tue, 02 May 2023 14:02:49 +0100, Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:

On 5/2/2023 12:20 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Can\'t we just get rid of public transport? I asked Google Maps for a
route from my house to somewhere I want to go on holiday.

2 hours by car, 6 hours by public transport. Dafuq?

Even more ridiculous, 6 hours by public transport, 7 hours by bicycle!
Public transport is hardly faster than a bicycle!

1 day on foot! Trains go a whole 4 times faster than me walking!

Just close them down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkpnorzkr4v3w07/transport.jpg?dl=0

In the May Scientific American there was an article about public
transport. They point to Seattle as a place where it works. You
just have to set it up right and run it frequently enough.

Or delete it and have everyone use a car. Not enough room? Go live somewhere which doesn\'t resemble an Indian shanty town.
 
On Tue, 02 May 2023 17:47:29 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 2 May 2023 11:08:48 -0500, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid
wrote:

On 5/2/23 08:02, Bill Gill wrote:
On 5/2/2023 12:20 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Can\'t we just get rid of public transport? I asked Google Maps for a
route from my house to somewhere I want to go on holiday.

2 hours by car, 6 hours by public transport. Dafuq?

Even more ridiculous, 6 hours by public transport, 7 hours by bicycle!
Public transport is hardly faster than a bicycle!

1 day on foot! Trains go a whole 4 times faster than me walking!

Just close them down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkpnorzkr4v3w07/transport.jpg?dl=0

In the May Scientific American there was an article about public
transport. They point to Seattle as a place where it works. You
just have to set it up right and run it frequently enough.

I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95 minutes.

Bill

Ski areas often have part-time, usually retired, bus drivers, working
mostly at peak times. Lots of small busses with part-time drivers
would be great, but the unions wouldn\'t allow it.

A lot of retired people would be happy to get out a few hours a day
and be helpful.

San Franciso used to have swarms of \"jitneys\", small private vans to
move people around. The politicians and unions made them illegal.

What would work really well is people being nice. Whenever I see a hitchhiker, I always give them a lift, every single time. And I always ask how long they were waiting. It seems to vary up to TWO HOURS. How many selfish fucking cunts have passed and not stopped to give someone a lift? Imagine people were all like me. Half the population could hitch and the other half drive. Half the petrol consumed, half the congestion, half the cost. The hitchhikers could pay an agreed small fare.
 
On Tue, 02 May 2023 18:40:06 +0100, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95 minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus
or
If more people took the bus they would run them more frequently so the
wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost effective.

The first one, the second one is lunacy. Let\'s overload a shit system with more customers. Now instead of waiting for a bus, you\'re waiting for a bus with a free seat.

By the way, no bus goes from my house to my destination. Not one. Ever. Can you foresee a bus to everyone\'s front door? Leaving whenever they want 24 hours a day? And a huge luggage space too? No, it\'s thi, delete it. We don\'t need that outdated crap from when people couldn\'t afford cars. Oh wait, it\'s cheaper to drive than take a bus, even with the government stealing your taxes to subsidise them.
 
On Wed, 03 May 2023 02:52:35 +0100, Tim Smith <\"Tim Smith\"@fakeemails.org> wrote:

On 2023-05-03, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2023 13:40:06 -0400, Ed P wrote:

On 5/2/2023 12:08 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


I rode the bus when I was going to college. There was one but that left
5 minutes after I got out of class. There wasn\'t another for 95
minutes.

What can we conclude from that?

Choose one:
Public transportation will never work because you have to wait 90
minutes for a bus or If more people took the bus they would run them
more frequently so the wait is minimal. Very convenient and cost
effective.

When I worked in Boston I would drive down from NH Sunday night and park
the car until my escape on Friday. Apparently Boston hasn\'t made that
observation yet. I rented apartments in various locations including
Allston, Somerville, and Beacon Hill. Walking was faster than messing
around with the MBTA. I wasn\'t a barhopper but if you were you had to
remember that while the bars closed at 2, the trains went to bed at 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0

When I worked on Wall Street NYC during the 1980\'s I would walk by the same cars on the street with
tickets on them.
Every day.
Same cars.
It finally occurred to me that paying the parking tickets cost less than renting garage space.
Go figure.

Parking tickets are stupid. You pay your taxes to supply roads, that includes somewhere to park.
 

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